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Let's Talk About PS5 And XBOX 2

Standard booths from Sony, from Microsoft, from
Nintendo and there's all the new games that you would expect. What I did not expect is talk about the next generation of consoles. It has been a full five
years since the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were

standard booths from Sony, from Microsoft, from
Nintendo and there's all the new games that you would expect. What I did not expect is talk about the next generation of consoles. It has been a full five
years since the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were
launched here at E3 2013. Now there've been a lot of things that have changed since then. Both consoles have seen a slim revision, we've seen stuff like the
PlayStation VR on the Sony side as well as the death of
Kinect on the Microsoft side. But really one of the most
important changes over the last few years has been the addition
of the mid-cycle console refreshes, that's not a great
way of putting that but we've got an Xbox One X and a
PlayStation 4 Pro now. Now sure there have been
improved consoles in the past, stuff like the Sega 32X
add on for the Genesis or the Nintendo 64 expansion pack are cool but they don't come
anywhere close to this same sort of level of functionality
and extra performance that we've gotten out of
the One X and the PS4 Pro. That led a lot of people, myself included, to assume that this current
generation of consoles that have quite a bit of life left. However, here at E3 the
next generation has actually been mentioned a couple times already. It started on Sunday night
with the Bethesda conference where they showed off not
only one but two brand new IPs that are meant for next gen. So they very briefly teased
The Elder Scrolls VI which was really just a tiny,
little trailer but more impressively they also
talked about Starfield. - We have also been working on a brand new next generation single player game. - Now the trailer for
Starfield didn't exactly give us a ton of game play
but what it did do is show off a game that as far as I know is going to be meant only for the next generation. So that's actually sort of not
really what I was expecting out of this E3, sure there
are going to be of course new consoles at some point
in the future but the idea the developers are already
showing off games that are meant to be running on that means
that it can't be that far off. Or can it? Unless Bethesda is in the
business of teasing a game that won't be out for four or five years, which I guess I can't actually rule out, odds are we are going to be
able to see the next generation consoles in two or three years
and that was further backed up by what Microsoft said on
stage on their event on Sunday. - [Phil] The same team that
delivered unprecedented performance with Xbox One X is deep into architecting the next Xbox consoles. - Now Phil Spencer didn't
just say there's going to be a new Xbox, he said
that there were going to be new Xboxes, as in like plural. Not only is this going to
be a pretty smart marketing move to get people talking
about the next generation of Xbox but this combined
with the fact that Microsoft is actually purchasing
several major studios to sort of juice up the Xbox
game development means that they're actually
doing a good job of putting a lot of resources, a lot of
money, and more importantly a lot of hype behind the next generation. Still though it's really
interesting to think that a year ago at E3 they were talking
about the Xbox One X and how it was about to come
out and now they've already moved on to the next generation. The rumor mill has gone into overdrive since the announcement. So supposedly Microsoft is
working on code name Scarlett which is the series of
next generation Xboxes. Now what these actually will
look like is kind of hard to say but we can take
some educated guesses. On the other hand, it seems
like Sony is perfectly content to ride out their sales lead with the PlayStation 4 for a little while. So in our recent interview
with The Wall Street Journal, the head of PlayStation, John Kodera, was quoted as saying
that the next PlayStation is three years away which
would put it in 2021. So not exactly around the
corner but it is very clear at this point that both
Sony and Microsoft are well under way developing the
next generation of consoles. The real question is, what do those consoles actually look like? So if you look at the current
generation of consoles, they are both based on
very, very similar tech. So both the PS4 and Xbox One
have an eight core AMD Jaguar based CPU as well as Radeon graphics. Sure there are some key differences. So not only does the PS4
utilize the much faster GDDR5 memory, something that's also
shared now with the One X but the PS4 also does
have a more powerful GPU. However, at their core they are sharing the exact same AMD based fundamentals. The same holds true for the enhanced versions of the consoles. So both the PS4 Pro and
Xbox One X are using very similar layouts but with
more memory bandwidth, bigger GPUs and higher clock speeds. So realistically what we're looking at is another x86 processor
that is very likely going to be based on AMD tech. So sure there are lots of other options. I'll get into those in just
a minute but I think the main take away here is that
by sticking with x86, not only do you keep
backwards compatibility with previous generation
games, something important for both the One and the
PS4, but importantly it also makes developers lives much easier when it comes to porting games from the PC. Now backwards compatibility is something that the Xbox already does really well. So not only does the Xbox One
support original Xbox games and quite a few Xbox 360
titles but when you bump up to the One X you're actually
able to play some of those games in a full 4K which
is impressive considering this all happened with emulation. If you have the very, very similar sort of features set and
sort of similar hardware in the next generation of consoles, that makes all of this even
easier to keep up to date. You can imagine the next
generation of Xbox having full backwards compatibility and
that being a huge selling point. Sure you can still go buy
an Xbox One but why bother when you can play an
Xbox Two that will play all of the same games and then some. Right now, the only
company that can deliver an experience like this is the same one that did it on the last generation, AMD. So of course they have modern GPU tech and especially in the next couple years you can imagine that you're
only going to be able to get access to better and better stuff. But almost more importantly than that, they also have some new
high end x86 CPU cores. So with the current
generation using the very slow mobile focus Jaguar cores,
I can easily imagine a scenario in which the
next generation consoles are going to be using AMD Ryzen. Especially if we really
are a couple of years away from the next generation of consoles, it's very easy to
imagine a full eight core Ryzen CPU set up inside a console APU. There are already some
whispers that Ryzen tech is being implemented in
the next gen of consoles. So supposedly with the Sony software that they're using on the
PS4 and presumably PS5, there is now going to be
support for the timings of the first generation Ryzen processors. Now that's cool but it's maybe
not the most exciting option. Take one look at the Nintendo
Switch and you can see that the next generation
can take several forms. Now sure this is not going to
be as powerful as something like the PS4 or Xbox One but
the portability really does unlock it to be something
that is very, very different. Because Nintendo opted for
a mobile focus processor with the Nvidia Tegra X1,
not only are you going to be getting ARM CPUs which are
typically shared with phones and tablets but importantly,
you're also still getting a high end solution within video graphics. Again, nothing that's going to be quite as powerful as something
like the current generation of consoles but at the end of the day graphics definitely aren't everything. Sure, the Switch delivers a
decent chunk of the performance of the current generation
consoles at a fraction of the power budget but
I don't think that means it's going to be a good
fit to go for this approach for the PlayStation 5
as well as the Xbox Two. Not only has Nvidia taken
the Tegra line of processors in a much more automotive focused area, mostly because they make
a lot of money there but even with a couple years of upgrades and sort of performance improvements, you really can't still
expect a mobile processor to come anywhere close
to the level of something like the PlayStation 4
Pro or the Xbox One X. Now sure at some point we
might see a mobile PlayStation or a mobile Xbox but I don't
think that is going to be what the proper next generation
of consoles looks like. On the other hand we have Intel. Now sure they do have the
CPU technology and they are working on dedicated graphics
but that's going to be several years away and it
is doubtful that they're going to waste all those
resources on trying to put together some bespoke
version of a console APU. Now, yes there are lots of possibilities but I think the smart money
is definitely on another fully AMD solution for both the
PS5 as well as the Xbox Two. I think it's very likely that
Sony is telling the truth. Well we'll probably see a
glimpse of the PlayStation 5 a little bit earlier, it will
likely go on sale in 2021. Microsoft is more exciting. The Xbox has been beaten and
beaten badly this generation. Now sure they've made some
major strides in the last couple years with stuff
like backwards compatibility as well as the Xbox One X
but at the end of the day most estimates put the
PlayStation 4 out selling the One roughly two to one and
that is not easy to overcome. My best bet is we're going to see the next generation of Xbox at the next year's E3. Now that would give us an
early look at something that would probably be launching in 2020. A full year ahead of the PlayStation 5 if everything goes according to plan. And by according to plan, I mean the plan that I just totally made up on my head, that is only vaguely
substantiated with real rumors and speculation but it sounds good so. So between next gen Ryzen
tech and stuff like game streaming which is only
going to be more and more popular, I do think there's
a lot of interesting stuff that we're going
to see over the next couple years for the new consoles. So I'm curious, what do you
guys think about what you expect to find in the
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