BATTLEFIELD V HAD A WOMEN IN WAR WHY AND FOR WHAT?
World war 2 is an iconic and important event for human history it is not some fantastical or fictional conflict dreamed up for the purposes of stories or novels it happened and it was real and there are people alive today who fought in it and as hard as video games go in the battlefield series many will instantly recall battlefield 1942 as the go to world war 2 game of the series though it was battlefield 1943 that was the last to visit World War 2 when it released way back in 2009 and I do say way back because 9 years is a long time especially in video games fans of the Battlefield series and pewters in general have been asking for battlefield to return to its roots to return to world war 2 for a long time for years in fact but why why return to any point in history at all why would you ask for a certain setting in a game what's the point what is it accomplished what does it give to the player why would you want that why would somebody ask especially for years and years why would somebody ask please bring this game back to this specific time period bring it back to World War 2 so why not make every game take place in the future why not have every game delve into the realms of science fiction you can have all sorts of weapons both real and imagined fantastic battles in space and across the galaxy or the universe you could have any kind of weapon any kind of equipment that you wanted and you'd really only be limited by your imagination and all of it would be believable and immersive and there wouldn't be any real limit to what you could place in the game.
So why ask for a war that took place in a specific time in the past why limit yourself why make a game where you can only put in things from a very small section of human history and know that what you place in that game can be checked and scrutinized oftentimes it is the limitations of technology that lend themselves to gameplay mechanics or to the experience one gets from immersing themselves in a time period there's a definite difference in the feel of a game that takes place in the medieval ages - one that would take place in a far future istic science setting you could ask a dozen people and maybe get a dozen different answers but the reason why people want a game that is set in world war two is because they want to game that accurately or at least believably portrays World War two the official battlefield Channel on May the 23rd released what you're watching in the background this is the believe it or not official battlefield 5 official reveal trailer This Is It this is the official reveal trailer of Battlefield 5 this is not a Call of Duty game this is not a Mad Max game this is not some sort of an alternate history post-apocalyptic game this is supposed to be a world war 2 game what you're watching right now the trailer which has almost 7 million views as of now has an incredibly terrible like to dislike ratio one that you wouldn't have believed if you couldn't see it yourself it's a 51% positive and then it's been steadily dropping since it has released I expect it'll get below 50% fairly soon in fact by the time I finish up making this video I bet it will probably be below 50% it's just a matter of time this battlefield this official battlefield reveal trailer is going to be more hated than it is loved and remember this is following the battlefield 1 reveal trailer that was made 2 years ago which was stellar that trailer is rated at 98% positive just to show the night and day differences between the two so a lot of us are scratching our heads and wondering what the fuck happened so how does a company like dice how a company that is beloved for mostly making excellent games over the years in a series that's beloved by very very many over a long period of time how do they go from making a battlefield 1 trailer that is beloved to making this dumpster fire well if you can't tell by what you're seeing on screen right now maybe that will enlighten you a quick foray into the comments of the battlefield 5 trailer will reveal exactly why the funny thing is that people who wanted this are not the ones who play battlefield none of whatever the heck I just watched was anything like World War two this thing is a massive turd this makes black ops 4 look like it's God's gift where is Captain America where is Wonder Woman are these the New Avengers wheelchair DLC confirmed feminism I smell it everywhere you get the idea people are obviously very upset without a doubt this is a PR disaster for dice and if I was working there then I would have serious reservations about the rest of the reception that this game gets the trailer which is supposed to in theory I suppose depict a squad of four British World War two soldiers has two white guys a black guy and a woman who has a prosthetic arm which is absolutely insane somebody dies had the bright idea that when people were clamoring for a good immersive authentic World War 2 game in the Battlefield franchise this is what they would give to people imagine all of the money in the planning in the time that went into creating this trailer all the while believing that perhaps people would be a-okay with this and this is just what everybody wanted and that's not even going into the silly blue face paint and the fact that we have British guys running around with katanas on their backs so now it seems like two years after my most popular video was released about Battlefield 1 in feminism we have to revisit the topic with the next Battlefield game to release.
There's a few different things to talk about so we'll go over them one by one until we cover all the ridiculousness that we've been shown here we have to talk about realism and immersion we have to talk about well you know what let's do a get old response style video to something that I've been seeing online all it takes is to go to Google type in battlefield 5 and then check the results go to all or go to the news and you'll see exactly what I mean here you'll get articles like this one from Forbes written by Paul Tassie this year it's battlefield 5 fighting YouTube trailer dislikes for a change he writes sadly a huge portion of the pushback is that dice has decided to feature a female soldier for Center in front the trailer and the cover art for the game and she has a missing arm to boot which has led to a very small but very toxic subset of fans lambasted dice for catering to the social justice crowd that's right everybody a very small subset of fans something that I've seen on a few articles that I've looked at it's a very very small portion of fans a very very tiny minority of people articles like Paul's confuse realism immersion and accuracy women soldiers technically existed during the war so putting them at the forefront and featuring them so prominently in this game makes total sense and I can't imagine why anybody would be upset at all he even says in his article I don't mind the trailer myself I do want to know more about whether or not they're going full alt history with it the fact you have to even ask that should prove the fucking point Paul people don't want in alt history world war two they want the actual one of course polygon was quick to jump on it battlefield fives female playable characters are here to stay says developer a local minority of fans got called out by dice general manager Oscar don't care after EA dice revealed battlefield 5 a small but vitriolic cross-section of fans voiced its concern again don't don't don't let don't look at the actual numbers don't look at the like to dislike ratio don't look at the fact that the infamous infinite war trailer for the Call of Duty series helped to lead to the lowest sales that the series had ever experienced don't don't look about that don't let numbers and reality influence you all you have to do is pull the typical game journalists nonsense and declare that the people who don't like what we like or who want things that we don't necessarily want they're just small and irrelevant and angry because that seems to be the trend here if you didn't like the fact that a game that's supposed to be immersive for World War two or in some ways accurate or realistic about World War two is so prominently featuring now a woman but one with a fucking prosthetic arm with blue face paint on her the covered no no it's because you're angry it's because you don't like women and nothing that you say it matters because we're just going to call you angry woman hater and that will solve that and those from which we should expect the most are the ones who deliver continually the least angry Joe whose channel I've been banned from posting comments on in the past by the way wait are some of you guys seriously upset that there's a woman in this image no Joe we're upset that there's a woman in the image in a world war two game because it makes no fucking sense I haven't watched angry Joe in a while if this doesn't Ella straight exactly why he continually misses the point let me ask you this Joe if they had a dinosaur on the front of battlefield fives cover do you think that people would have an issue with it because they don't like dinosaurs or what do you think it's because they think it's completely and totally out of place and isn't what people are asking for and have asked for for years Anthony Burch works at riot tweeted out so if you're a person who finds the battlefield 5 diversity stuff upsetting you have three options one except it doesn't really change that much ignore it to try to find coolness in something that is new and unusual to you and 3 accept that you will be angry all the time forever it's these displays of countenance that are the exact reason why social justice is not making the pushes that at once especially within videogames because if you don't like it then you're just gonna be angry all the time and you're an angry person and you're a white male in your opinion doesn't matter and you are lonely and you are worthless and your opinion doesn't mean anything yada yada yada it's the same thing we see over and over and over if you don't like the idea of social justice in the game if you think that it's silly that a woman isn't this British battalion with a fucking prosthetic arm that means you're going to be angry all the time at everything for the rest of always social justice does not make arguments it makes declarations and it labels people let us turn our attention to the primary subject of this video which is a Kotaku article written by Luke bucket Oh No there are women in battlefield 5 I understand a lot of you didn't exactly need more of a reason to not read Kotaku but here we are so now we're going to yet again explore why the people who write about games journalism seem to be the ones who know the least about games and the people who play them there are women in battlefield 5 a game set during the Second World War there in the game they're in the trailer they're even on the posters and a lot of people are very upset is this what their forefathers fought for continually we do see that social justice advocates and the people who are always pushing pro diversity stances and video games over one who will preach tolerance out of one side of their mouth and then do everything in their power to sound like the biggest cunts imaginable and then wonder why all those evil gamers just aren't warming up to the idea you see Luka maybe more people would be open to the idea if you weren't such a fucking dick hole about it to recap in case your job is blessed and does not require you to monitor the worst of websites like Reddit and Twitter some folks are angry that their favorite violence multiplayer shooter which has never been based on anything approaching historical accuracy now has historically inaccurate portrayals of women in a black man fighting with guns in the Second World War already from the get-go Luke demonstrates why people are consistently asking if video game journalists actually play video games when he says the series has never been based on anything approaching historical accuracy he's just fucking flat-out wrong that's why there are no ak-47s in a game set in World War one and how come flame throwers are not depicted in modern conflicts it's the same reason why there are no holographic gun sights in world war ii games and why there are no remote-controlled surveillance drones in Vietnam every single game that battlefield has in the series has a level of historical accuracy to it that doesn't compromise in the overall integrity of the experience it's important to note that I should immediately have to state that deviations from this are exactly that they are deviations from the norm for instance Bad Company 2 had an unlockable m1 garand even though the game was set in modern times it should go without saying a spam to someone who fancies himself a video game journalist that video games more often than not in fact it's the vast majority of circumstances where the game will be accurate to the period that it takes place in deviations from this again like the m1 garand for instance in Bad Company 2 are treated almost as if they are special and supposed to be inaccurate it's used to make the things stand out or they're used to reference a game that came before the current one in the series when we look at this trailer here and we look at the prominence of a disabled woman on the frontlines of World War 2 combat again it doesn't it doesn't make any sense there's no purpose for it it serves no function there's no reason the only reason that I can think of as to why they would put something into this game of this nature is because dice is Swedish and the Swedes are super fucking cooked it takes a special kind of questionable for somebody to make a World War 2 game and think you know what the sniper and the squad should be a woman who's only got one arm because an hour special fucking universe that makes any level of sense Luke then foolishly decides to put comments from Twitter that are more intelligent than his article and prominently feature them if all the men in this game aren't back home working in factories I'm going to be pissed go all the way you pussies hashtag and not real social justice because fuck historical accuracy gotta have a female on the front of a World War 2 multiplayer first-person shooter because reasons any chance the deluxe edition removes all the thoughts from the game you know what screams World War 2 to me a black guy a woman and two white guys fighting the Germans on the same squad why are there British women what the fuck that trailer was a caricature of World War two like if the war could get a cartoon done of itself for $3 at the beach I was more excited before the trailer Luke features all of these images and I can't help but notice that especially the last three are really highly upvoted which is strange if the claim that this is just a very tiny vocal minority is true and it's not but to hell with reality in fact that's probably what I would to be the motto of diversity in social justice just fuck reality just those two where it's fuck reality but who looks at this image right here and says yeah that's a world war yeah that's the kind of authenticity and immersion that I expect in a world war 2 game by dice that's that's just what I've been asking for for years this right here Luke goes on unfortunately it's tiring to have to face this year after years so it's almost not even worth pointing out like the guy at the bottom there cries that women served in armed forces across the world during the conflict mostly as support personnel Shearer sure yeah and there were also examples in a Soviet Union especially where they served on the front lines both on the ground and in the air nobody has ever said that no women ever served in any kind of military role in World War 2 the argument has never been made and if it has been it was almost surely appo nobody doubts this nobody contends it this is perhaps one of the worst arguments you could possibly make against people who say that immersion is being harmed by the prominence of female combatants on the frontlines in World War two did it technically happen yes nobody is down and get it technically did happen to some degree despite how tiny and miniscule that degree was let's just focus on the British here and keep things topical all it takes is a quick search search on the Google machine and you can go to Wikipedia and look up the women of World War two and then go to Great Britain the most common role of women in active service was that of a searchlight operator while women still face discrimination from some of the highly stereotypical older soldiers and officers who did not look like women playing with their guns women were still given a rifle practice and taught to use anti-aircraft guns while serving in their batteries they were told that this was in case the Germans invaded however if that were ever to happen they would be evacuated immediately more importantly the article talks about the limitations whilst women were limited in some of their roles they were expected to perform to the same standard as a male soldier performing the same role that's not very feminist of them and although they could not participate in front-line combat still manned anti-aircraft guns and defenses which actively engaged hostile aircraft above Britain women went through the same military training lived in the same conditions and did almost the same jobs as men with the exception of not being able to participate in front-line combat well fuckin scratch my ears and call me a good boy Luke that doesn't exactly sound like it fits in with the whole historical realism bit about the battlefield 5 trailer do you think that there is any chance in hell or earth that if a woman with one arm wanted to be a frontline combatant in the British Armed Forces in World War two they'd be like oh yeah sure in fact you're a sniper now even if you go to the official government of the Second World War it talks about the Special Operations Executive the SOE where Churchill recruited around 60 women to work behind enemy lines and to help prepare the way for the Allied invasion again 66 0 50 and 10 Luke nobody is saying that women did not play an important part in world war 2 nobody is saying that it's never been said don't try and attack this argument it's just a straw man nobody wants to minimize the role that women took in world war 2 so pointing out that it's ridiculous that you're so prominently featuring a woman on the frontlines in combat who's not only a woman period but who only has one arm to say that that is in an attempt to silence the I don't know how they would phrase it the accomplishments of women that's ridiculous if something never ever happened and everybody any layman knows that it didn't happen and it sucks away the immersion that they have been seeking for years from a World War two environment then you done fucked up so Luke continues even though I suppose he has convinced himself in some capacity enough to believe it that having women on the frontlines in a world war 2 game is just a normal thing and there's nothing unusual about it and that it's totally historically authentic and that nobody should be complaining at all he says but like that doesn't even matter here any idea that the of all things is what shatters the credibility in historical credentials of a series that has long reduced the war to endless skirmishes between Jeep flipping plane crashing brave soldiers named 69 xx cum Lauder xx 69 is insane watch this trailer and tell me that above everything else it's the gender and race of the combatants that seems unrealistic okay Luke the gender and the race of the combatants is not realistic if you attempt to kid yourself that it is then you're doing just that you're trying to convince yourself that you can force this diversity into a place where it did not exist it seems to be in a strange way a two-prong argument because I see a little bit of both I scoured a lot of comments section read some tweets did all that looking around while I was trying to gather some information trying to figure out if maybe I and my layman's level of knowledge about the battlefields of World War two was missing the loss to history and forgotten battalions of disabled women fighting against the Nazis and private McDougal the samurai warrior who hails from the land of that isin paint either way the response to this seems to be oh yeah well that might be unrealistic but so is X Y & Z and then we get into the whole rabbit hole of these games aren't realistic they're trying to be immersive and to an acceptable degree authentic for instance whenever you play virtually any multiplayer shooter any battlefield game or Call of Duty game you have absolutely no trouble at all accepting the fact that human soldiers can spontaneously reincarnate this is accepted without question nobody bats an eye or raises a brow when you're playing an online video game you know that if you shoot a guy then later on you might run across that same guy because he has come back to life and respawned onto the battlefield somewhere else and he might fight you again so why is it exactly that people can accept reincarnation in multiplayer video games but like me and like clearly a lot of people they have realism issues and authenticity issues with the fact that some woman with face paint in one arm is fighting the Germans on the frontlines and again I'm not even going into the fucking samurai sword or the black dude we're not even gonna go into that kettle of fish can of worms basket of hydrangeas or whatever and again it's really weird that I have to explain this to people who I should not have to explain it to if my parents had asked me this question I would gladly go into the reasons why one of these things is accepted and one of them simply isn't but I'm apparently having to discuss this with video game journalists or professionals clinical professionals in the industry video game reviewers 99% of people probably more understand that a video game is a video game you are sitting with a controller over the mouse and keyboard in front of a screen you are playing a video game in fact it is rare for games to make you forget you're playing a video game and it's often lauded in reviews and by gamers that if a game can make you forget you're actually playing a video game by being that engrossing that is a very positive trait in something worthy of praise people since they understand they're playing a video game know that there will be concessions to the realistic depiction that takes place within that game soldiers will respawn not because they didn't in the real world but because there is a player behind the screen somewhere who wants to get back into playing the game guns never Jam because if they jammed and you had to worry about dirt and mud and things that just wouldn't be fun it would take away from the gameplay experience soldiers have hit points you are proficient equally with all weapons and reload and rearm yourself at the same rate across the board every single time without fail you can instantly enter inside a vehicles or leave them instantly on through teleportation a lot of us who are watching this I would say 100 percent of people who are watching this understand that this is just a facet of many games that we accept as gamers we are they are so prevalent and we understand that they serve a purpose and a function and that function is not to be historically realistic but it's to make the game play better it's to help us as a player enjoy the world that we're looking at through the screen on Twitter and other places on the Internet I've seen the argument pop up especially with this battlefield trailer that OH yeah in a game that lets you do X and they show a picture of some glitch or exploit people have found in a battlefield game because you can do this that's fine but a woman fighting oh that's terrible because they don't understand things and it's the most superficial analysis that you could possibly make that doesn't actually have any merit to it once it's examined you're not supposed to be able to stand upon somebody who's riding a horse and shoot a flamethrower it's not the design of the game it's not the design of a game to do a lot of things game's inherently will have glitches and bugs and they won't function perfectly 100% and there are things that the devs probably didn't intend for you to do but are possible to do in the game it's not because these things are realistic it's that games have limitations the technology has limitations and people especially when you have millions and millions of people playing a game over countless hours over even more uncounted amounts of games they will discover exploits that's why these things are called exploits and they're called glitches and bugs because it's not the design of the game to allow you to do these things saying that well X bug exists in a game therefore there's absolutely no reason to try and be historically accurate is one of the most low tier basic bitch arguments I can think of so really it's not that much of a surprise it came from a Kotaku writer Luke unfortunately continues his article instead of being quiet yet that's where we are today because we're talking about the words historical accuracy among gamers on the Internet I don't know I don't know what he's getting at here I'm not gonna belittle people because they are gamers on the internet there are a lot of gamers on the Internet and they clearly care about historical accuracy but I guess that he just doesn't think that it's a fathomable position that we're even talking about this it's almost like the fact we're talking about this disproves him saying I can't believe we're talking about this because clearly gamers do care but I guess too Luke gamers shouldn't care or they don't care they're not supposed to care and it wouldn't shock me because well what's to be surprised about by a video game journalist on Kotaku telling gamers well they shouldn't shouldn't think and feel about he goes on those two were rarely mean what they look like they mean at face value they appear to suggest a game has or is striving to attain some semblance of accuracy in its portrayal of the events of the past I mean Luke Luke is so close to being aware of the issue he's so close he brushes against the face of realization he's so close here but he just completely drops the ball and doesn't see the point yes games attempt to attain some semblance of accuracy in his portrayal of the events of the past it's not perfect they never claim it's perfect and everyone who has half of a brain knows that it will never be perfect he says the nature of video games means that rarely happens yes to capture history in a digital experience would require a developer to adapt the language architecture beliefs society and culture it's con redundant of the place and time being represented and to do so knowing that the records of the past and subsequent writings were shaped by the prevailing politics to truly present something accurate to the time period would probably result in a game you wouldn't really enjoy playing ding ding ding he gets it he understands exactly that's why we make concessions to the realistic depiction in a video game because ultimately there is a person on the other side of a screen trying to enjoy themselves but Luke goes on what we often see in a historical FPS action game is just the visual trappings and that's okay it's a mass-market action game not a history lesson and here he goes with his typical diversity social justice video game journalism nonsense he instantly paints anyone who disagrees with him as an angry dork what angry dorks mean when they say historical accuracy is not a game that's accurate to the time being presented then but - but accurate to the aspects of that time or the popular historical retelling of it that are sympathetic to their current political and cultural beliefs this is deliciously ironic because Luke doesn't know jack about history apparently and he's telling us that we want the game to be it's it's just all it's all a mess it's all a mess this article
is a mess it is a Kotaku article through and through what Luke is ultimately telling us is that you an angry dork if you think that the politically incorrect past should be represented in a politically correct fashion you're a dork if you think that if you have problems with the historical accuracy of a British frontline soldier who is a woman who only has one operating arm you're just an angry dork it doesn't matter what you say it doesn't matter what you know about history and it doesn't matter that to you what's important in a video game is so it's important in a video game to you you are an angry dork if you're okay with the battlefield 5 trailer and listen not all the problems that people have with the trailer aren't just a woman I mean I'm just focusing on the women aspect here but the silliness and the ridiculousness of the whole trailer is it's it's own thing we're just focusing on the woman here but if someone told me they're okay with a frontline soldier in a world war ii game being a woman with a prosthetic arm and face paint if they're okay with that then fine it's okay to be okay with that and oddly enough and all of the comments that I've been looking over across the internet there doesn't seem to really be the attitude that if you're okay with it you're a bad person or you're an angry nerd or you're just an upset male or you're some MRA or you're some piece of shit gamergate er that seems to be an exclusively one-way sentiment the hostility is going from one side to the other it is not being exchanged here there are people all across the internet you can go and you can find this I've already shown some of them if you have a problem with the depiction of women then you are a bad person and you're angry and you're upset and you're alone and you're emotionally fragile and you're unstable and you're an angry nerd and a bad person and this is as I said a one-way thing that's occurring here these people need to understand that if you're gonna act like a total dick hole and you're gonna be an ass and you're gonna talk like a cunt to people because you disagree with them and you don't listen to what they're saying and you label them as things and dismiss them your side's not gonna win and that's why it's not that's why you so many people despite the huge pushes that are being made for diversity and social justice and video games despite all of that it's why trailers like this are being disliked so heavily and it's why games with big social pushes don't sell well not only are you wrong and your arguments are terrible but you're assholes about it which makes us not what I have anything to do with you all the more Luke goes on unfortunately it doesn't bother them that a randomly created soldier with no training can jump behind the controls of a complex fighter aircraft or expertly handle a cross-section of enemy weapons they don't care that the streets of European cities aren't recreated one-to-one or that uniform details aren't strictly adhere to or that battlefields war is fought to time limits and kill counts I already touched on this a little bit before but there are again obvious unrealistic aspects of video games that must be made so that it is a ultimately fun experience for the player because the player is playing a video game they're not actually taking part in a real war around them no you don't have to go to flight school and have military training nor should you in order to fly a plane in the game that would be ridiculous nobody would buy that game it would not be a sellable product and for gameplay in balance purposes reloads will always be standardized across web ins no matter who does them no matter how many times you do them without fail guns don't Jam etc etc I've made my point the sad part is I have to try and make my point to somebody who is a video game journalist and should not have to have the point made to them in the first place nobody is asking for entire European cities to be completely and totally realistically recreated to scale nobody's asking for that this is something Luke is pulling out of his asshole to make his argument sound good and it's not it only shows how out of touch he is with the way the gamers think it's so weird then because the next sentence he says those things are acceptable compromises like he doesn't understand like he's so close to grasping it and he even says that the words leave his metaphorical mouth and he still doesn't get it he still doesn't understand in his mind having disabled face painted female frontline soldiers in world war ii is a totally acceptable compromise to immersion and he can't get over the fact that to a huge amount of people in fact what is going to become the majority of people don't feel the way that he is and it's typical of Kotaku as a one of those lefty diverse the SJW video game journalism sites of course he doesn't side with gamers of course not he doesn't sign it with the majority of people he sides with whatever the diversity position is regardless of how many people agree or disagree with it and there was some level of consistency ideologically with that but he tries to say he's standing up for gamers with these positions and he's not not only is his position the least popular one it's the one that's demonizing the majority he goes on these things are acceptable compromises it's a video game and those are video game things that the Second World War just needs to accommodate with its representation in order to work yet introduce something as relatively harmless it has zero impact on gameplay as women or black soldiers were historically there were none and suddenly the sky is falling okay well I'm glad that you've accepted now that historically there are none but something that can something can be aesthetic right and impact the player just because it doesn't have an impact on gameplay doesn't mean that something can't have an impact something can be purely aesthetic and remove immersion it can impact how the player feels about the game and if a player is looking for the feeling of a world war two game then having women with one arm and face paint on the frontlines of British forces in world war two is obviously going to have a huge impact because that's ridiculous and it's ridiculous at face value it doesn't have to be explored for people the layman the regular gamer to go what the hell is this something's not right here this isn't how it was Luke is actually apparently making the argument here that as long as it doesn't affect the statistics and the numbers and the gameplay that's happening anything can look like anything and anything can sound like anything and there should be no problems at all so if all of the battlefield soldiers were dressed as clowns and they spoke no Persian then that's fine because it doesn't impact gameplay it only affects aesthetics I guess that would be okay to Luke but then again Luke is a video game journalist as long as the clowns are properly representative of the 72 genders there should be no issue at all he goes on it's almost as though opposition to a British woman holding a gun or a black man serving in a combat role has little to do with historical accuracy and everything about someone finding their current views on gender race and society challenged in a space the good old days they thought was safe well this is just Luke making shit up as to half his job description I would imagine people didn't really have a problem with the Harlem Hellfighters in battlefield one because there was a historical reason to put them in and it didn't break immersion it was a battalion the company I'm sorry I don't know the exact terminology of strictly black males because there wasn't really segregation in the Armed Forces at the time who fought against the enemy and who were very good at what they did and the game portrayed them in that setting in a pretty believable way and people didn't really have a problem with that after all the battlefield one trailer was he was it was one of the greatest trailers that I've seen first off but it was rated 98% positive on YouTube that's why in Call of Duty games for instance no one has a problem with female soldiers especially in modern times because in modern times it's much more believable people don't have a problem suspending their disbelief when they see it in that setting maybe people obviously had questions about why the Germans had a black guy and things of that nature and hey in battlefield 3 the assault class or the medic class was a black guy but it took place in modern times so nobody batted an eye to it but if you do the same thing here in world war 2 obviously people are gonna have questions because it doesn't make any sense and it breaks with reality in a way that destroys the immersion for a lot of people nobody is saying that women are bad and black people are bad and things are bad everything's bad and horrible what they're saying is that in this setting that they're trying to present the setting that gamers for years have asked for a world war 2 setting it doesn't make any sense and if you're going to create these immense immersion breakers then why do I have a world war two game at all like what I said at the beginning why not just hand make every game a futuristic game where you can put anything in and nobody will bat an eye why not just do that it's because people want specific time periods to be represented to at least a sufficient degree accurately the black guy the Harlem Hellfighters in battlefield one that's how you do it correctly that's why nobody had a problem with it but this is forced what we see in this trailer this is forced literally disabled women this used to be a meme and now it's real it's a thing that's happening this used to be a joke a joke because of how ridiculous it is but put it in the game for realsies and obviously people take a problem with it what you're doing Luke is you're assigning motivations to a huge group of people you might not think they're huge but reality is a bitch in it you're assigning to a huge group of people motivations when they're completely unfounded you're assigning to them what their thoughts are and what their reasoning is when you clearly have not taken any kind of effort in order to learn that luckily the article about runs out of steam here battlefield isn't and never has been about recreating the past he says this on ironically Luke says this on ironically is if all the other battlefields they totally weren't trying to recreate at least to an appreciable degree in an immersive degree a time period he says this just flat-out it as a fact that's what he says that ok then there are far more serious and studious second world war games for that kind of business instead it's always been about letting people in the present use war as a playground and if dice wants to broaden the scope of those represented in those games here we go then that's awesome for everyone involved well almost everyone you know the majority of people because Luke's ok with making these kinds of changes to games because hey even though most people hate it and they voice their displeasure as it they can accurately articulate the reasons why they don't like it at least the at least disabled women can feel more represented in this World War 2 game because ultimately that was one of the biggest problems with war that was one of the biggest problems with world war two games disabled women weren't accurately represented what a load of tripe in again this isn't going into the way that the trailer feels with its chaotic silly over-the-top nature it actually kind of sounds one from what I've read about the gameplay changes that it could be an interesting departure from the standard battlefield experience and I'm interested to see how it functions in reality but the first impressions that I get are that well one video game journalists still despise gamers but dice isn't going to actually listen to feedback they're gonna keep things the way they are because fuck you you're just a consumer in words ice and nothing's more important than precious force diversity I was really excited for battlefield one in battlefield one it wasn't as good as its predecessor but it was a good game and I was excited to play that game after I saw the trailer it was interesting it made me curious about what they would do and how the game would play out I was I was legitimately excited to play in this time period just like I was excited when I heard that world war 2 would be the setting of the next Battlefield game I said good finally I haven't really played in fact I've never played a world war 2 themed battlefield game that stuff happened before I got into the series so I was really interested to see what they do and now all I can think about is man if this is the kind of immersion breaking that's gonna be in the real game then I don't know if I'm gonna bother because the world war 2 appeal is ultimately one of the biggest aspects for me and clearly is to a lot of people as shown by that horrendous abortion of a like to dislike ratio if I was dice I would be seriously concerned when Call of Duty infinite warfare came out one of the most infamous trailers of all time it turned out the game sold very very poorly and I think I think it would be ridiculous to assume that that was in no small part because of the first impression of the game was so immensely negative maybe battlefield will turn out to be the best one yet maybe it will be fantastic and all of the changes that I'm hearing about will work excellently when surrounded by other people maybe it'll all just flow together in just the right way and we'll have reached the best battlefield game yet however if you are like me in a big part of your attraction to the idea of this game is the fact that it is set in world war two and they have extremely unusual and forced immersion breaking aspects of the game that will always be at the forefront of it then I can understand why you wouldn't be excited I'm kind of I mean I'm interested a part of me is really lukewarm and tepid a part of me really is kind of worried and I hope the game does well but as it stands right now I'm concerned and whatever you do don't go into the official battlefield discord and crack a few jokes or make a little do a little funny or else they'll line you up for a banning and honestly that just fits in with the rest of what seems to be the general response to people who have a problem with the trailer if you have a problem with the trailer and then banham they're a bunch of bad people they don't like women they're being hypocrites or in Luke's case they're a bunch of angry nerds there's no legitimate reason why you wouldn't want a face painted disabled woman on the front lines of a World War 2 game there is no legitimate reason why you're just a hater you just hate women if you liked the trailer then fine that's fine if you liked the trailer it's fine it's okay to like the trailer if you didn't like the trailer maybe you're not a bigoted racist sexist homophobic misogynistic Lenk whatever it is maybe you have concerns about its ability to immerse you in the setting.
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